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Post Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:35 pm 
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I had an issue surface on Tuesday when I went out fishing that confirmed my suspicions... I filled my oil tank the night before and when I got back to the dock I had burned over 2 gallons of 2 cycle oil when I used approx 24 gallons of gas. I had been noticing my oil consumption has been going up but now it's out of control. I called my mechanic (JohnnyRude expert) and he said that's common symptom that VRO is about to die. Well, knowing how important that little booger is to engine longevity I purchased a new one which is on the way.. BTW - Those things are pricey!

Has this happened to anyone else with my same motor? Interested in hearing the details and see if they match up to mine. Evidently its been getting worse over time as I have noticed soot on the foot of the motor where the exhaust vents are above the anti cavitation plate and some oil residue where the LU meets the mid-section.

Any other concerns I should look for.. fouled plugs, maybe do a de-carb after replacement? Suggestions are welcome but I am not interested in doing the pre-mix thing. Its a pain and not great for your motor since it should be running 100:1 at idle and 50:1 and wide open.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:29 pm 
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I replaced mine last year when the housing actually cracked and it was sucking in air, also It was recommended to me to run double oil (which I did ) for a little while after the switch till you can verify the new one is working properly.

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:38 am 
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When I bought a pump, I found that Dusky Online had the cheapest price for the VRO pump. I bought the non VRO and just mixed in the tank so there would be no worries in the future.

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:52 am 
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I received the VRO on Tuesday and had my mechanic put it in Wednesday. He checked the plugs and we ran the boat at his shop at pickup and then again back at the Marina (did a decarb treatment) and it sounds good. Will be water testing this weekend to put some hours on it to track oil usage b/f taking her offshore. I have the old VRU that I plan to break in to and pick it apart.. kinda want to do my own forensic investigation of sorts. But no leaks were found so I am optimistic that this resolved my issue and hoping the I may see some improvement since I am not running 12:1 any longer.. :)

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:38 am 
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Hey, I heard mosquito control had openings in your area Berger

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:12 pm 
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Aqua.. I am too... That is one part on my motor that I want to stay working for sure! That's why I asked my mechanic to put it in and check it out. I like to do most of my own maintenance and the part doesn't look very complicated... one wiring harness plug and three hoses. That said, I feel a little better knowing it was professionally done and checked out.
Kevin - She still smokes a fair amount at start-up (prob due to the wal-mart brand oil I use) so I am doing my part down here! :1992_beer_cheer: That said, we are still in our low-bug-density time of year. Give it a month and we will have a fresh batch of all those little things that bite and make you itch.

A little history:
1998 total engine hrs unknown - beyond normal maintenance @ 2 1/2 Years and 300+ hours :

New head gaskets (replaced due to cooling problem investigation / Aug 2012)
New stator (flywheel magnet issue killed stator / Aug 2013)
Refurb fly wheel (spun cracked magnets / Aug 2013)
New LU (cheaper to buy SCI LU than parts and labor to fix <gears and clutch dog failed> / March 2014)
Shift cable (replaced with LU - old one was stretched / March 2014)
New VRO pump (old one mixing at 12:1 / March 2015)

Engine is costing me $400-$600 a year now beyond routine maintenance.. not sure if that's good or bad?

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:23 pm 
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I dont know your way, but Walmart here in Southwest has been selling Evinrude mineral oil for 19.95 a gal and the store brand has been $26.00 a gal. For the last 2 nights, I have been getting chewed on by the Screaming Mimi's

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:42 pm 
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As far as two cycle oil I have been using Walmart's SuperTech which sells for $12.80/gallon. Prob smokes a little more but like you said.. good bug repelant! :)

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:09 pm 
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That is an awesome price, it is way crazy here compared to your place.

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:09 pm 
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I also use the Supertech. It's half the price of the next cheapest oil. I also use Supertech in the car, in the 5w30 variant. Next oil change I'm sending it to Blackstone, and since I've been using it for a few years, probably 6-7 oil changes over the period of time at 5,000 mile increments, it should be interesting to see how it looks.

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:55 am 
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Had the boat out yesterday afternoon.. Took the GF to our favorite Sunday hangout/watering hole... busy day there, had to double park at the dock! :1992_beer_cheer: It was a little breezy in the morning but overall a very nice day on the water. Engine ran great with the new VRO installed. I was actually surprised how much better it's running now, very little smoke after initial start-up, smooth idling and much more responsive through the RPM range. I think my prior pump was going bad slowly over time as the degradation in performance what not immediately noticeable.. more of a decay process. Well until I eventually made it to 12:1 lol.


Scott - Did I see you over by Maximo Park in St. Pete? I drove by an AS and waved.. Kinda looked like your rig

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:46 pm 
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Scott - Did I see you over by Maximo Park in St. Pete? I drove by an AS and waved.. Kinda looked like your rig


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:32 am 
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That's great man. Glad to hear it worked out for you. I remember feeling that relieved when I replaced mine last year and it fixed my low oil light. Whew!

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:45 pm 
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Carl - q/q --> Do you know when the "low-oil" light is supposed to come on? I assume there is a float in the oil tank that triggers the alarm but I thought I ready that there is a two stage alarm.. Any info you have would be appreciated.

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:13 pm 
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Eh, not low oil. It's the oil pressure light. It's inside the the VRO pump. Basically, when the pump goes bad, the VRO pump sees that it's not pumping oil through, and it throws the warning light. My bad for saying low oil. Low oil is a float in the tank.

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